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Crushing the Creation Myth: Explaining Vampires through Science
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Crushing the Creation Myth: Explaining Vampires through Science

When you stick the supernatural on a lab slide and chase off the dark with fluorescents, what's there left to be afraid of?

We’re headed back to Atlantis this week to continue asking: if vampires are figments of the Gothic imagination, why do so many authors insist on examining them under a microscope? If our nightmares haunt us with fears of the unknown, what exactly do we gain from the paragraphs on paragraphs of exposition that tell us exactly how those monsters came to be? In other words, have sci-fi vampires been defanged (and are they just compensating with their big, nasty teeth)?

In this episode, Hannah and Rebecca dive deep into the history of the mad scientist as brought to us by Mary Shelley and Universal Pictures, unpack the link between 20th-century B-films and the atomic bomb, and consider whether vampire-as-plague works better as a metaphor than a plot device. Hannah is traumatized by weird-ass ant brain fungus, Rebecca is scarred by having to discuss I Am Legend yet again, and they both demand to know what the hell a “nano” actually is.

Come vamps, join us around the campfire.


Major Spoilers:

Other media mentioned in this episode:

Fiction
Film
  • Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror, directed by F.W. Murnau, 1922

  • Dracula, directed by Tod Browning, 1931

  • Frankenstein, directed by James Whale, 1931

  • The Wolf Man, directed by George Waggner, 1941

  • House of Frankenstein, directed by Erle C. Kenton, 1944

  • House of Dracula, directed by Erle C. Kenton, 1945

  • The Vampire, directed by Paul Landres, 1957

  • Nosferatu the Vampire, directed by Werner Herzog, 1979

  • Nadja, directed by Michael Almereyda, 1994

  • From Dusk Till Dawn, directed by Robert Rodriguez, 1996

  • Blade, directed by Stephen Norrington, 1998

  • Shadow of the Vampire, directed by E. Eilas Merhige, 2000

  • Dracula 2000, directed by Patrick Lussier, 2000

  • Blade II, directed by Guillermo del Toro, 2002

  • I Am Legend, directed by Francis Lawrence, 2007

  • Daybreakers, directed by Michael Spierig and Peter Spierig, 2009

  • Morbius, directed Daniel Espinosa, 2022

  • Nosferatu, directed by Robert Eggers, 2024

  • Van Helsing, directed by Stephen Sommers, 2004

TV
  • The Vampire Diaries, 2009-2017

  • The Strain, 2014-2017

  • V Wars, 2019

  • Midnight Mass, 2021

  • Wednesday, 2022-2025

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